Seriously?
Feb. 7th, 2012 06:37 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
I follow the causes page on Facebook and while most don't concern me, I always click on the ones for 'Thank a Solider' since for every person who 'reads' the posts money goes toward care packages and welcome home teams for the troops.
But the one that showed up in my email today caught my eye and so I read it. I've copy/pasted the text below.*
And then I read some of the comments.There was one that said something to the effect of "I am TOTALLY against homosexuality and I wouldn't care" but I can't find it now (I first saw this this morning at my mother's). Found it.
But there's one comment that pissed me off enough to post about this.
The first response to this asshole made me cheer.
Then there's this comment:
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But the one that showed up in my email today caught my eye and so I read it. I've copy/pasted the text below.*
A question for all the members of this cause pageMy first thought was "Really? Someone is that worried about being touched by a homosexual that they wouldn't ask for water or even thank the person for saving them, that they'd instantly wonder if the person saving them is gay?!"
Before you read this post I want you to picture yourself on a hike in the mountains, you're on a trail near the edge of a steep drop. You're with a friend but they are far up ahead of you and you slip on a rock and fall down the hill. Luckily you catch yourself on a ledge and have a branch and something to hold on to. Your friend comes back to find you but is unable to get to you so he calls for help. You are in such a remote area that a Search and rescue tech from the military is called in to save you. Is your first question "Are you a homosexual?"
And then I read some of the comments.
Okay... The question would never even cross my mind in a situation involving my life like that. The only thing I would ask is,"What took y'all so long?" (or maybe if hey had some water... lol) And then I would be thanking them profusely for being a soldier and for saving my life!!! I am TOTALLY against homosexuality.... But come on..... the guy saved his life! We have to draw the line somewhere!I'm glad they wouldn't care even though they're homophobic.
But there's one comment that pissed me off enough to post about this.
I do not think I would even think to ask that question - besides which, the S & R people would send a team, not an individual. On the other hand, if one of them were to say, "How about some sex as a token of your gratitude?" I would report him - maybe after landing a punch.I mean, really? Just how many homosexual men do you know? Or are you talking from personal experience?
The issue is not whether or not those who serve can do a good job. The issue is that same-sex attracted men in service (and women as well) would change the nature of relationships within the ranks, and that change would not be an improvement. It is the very nature of young same-sex attracted men to be constantly on the prowl for new partners.
The first response to this asshole made me cheer.
I am not sure that young gay men are constantly on the prowl any more than young straight men (or women for that matter!). If they were I somehow don't think they would join the military to fulfill their needs. Sorry I find this a little presumptuous and slightly offensive stereotyping. I am not saying there arent people like that, I'm saying it's wrong to presume everyone is like that. I have to disagree with your statement about the change not being an improvement. Throughout our history people said the same thing about offering equal rights to women, african americans, american indians, irish, jewish, muslims... the list goes on.The original commenter's homophobia is showing, as seen in his response to this person.
How would gay men or women change relationships any more than the inter-mingling of straight men and women? I would think there is a far greater fraternization ratio between the men and wome...n in the service than between same sexes. I have been FAR more offended and threatened by the men who have hit on me in in the past than by any of the women who did.
If we want to be "The Land of the Free" then we all need to practice some open-mindedness. We aren't "The Land of the Free as long as Nothing Changes and Everybody Agrees on How We All Should Live"! This doesn't mean we have to condone anything or that it's ok for people to flaunt things - I certainly don't want to be sitting in a restaurant with my daughter listening to the guy behind me talk loudly about how he was with three different chicks last night and none of them knew about the others... I think people need to demonstrate respect and try to avoid stereotyping!
Some opposite sex attracted males (I will not say men) are always on the prowl; I have certainly known some and they are often tedious. Most men think about sex a lot - but most same-sex attracted men think about it all the time, as I know from my friends who were once same-sex attracted but who have since repented and (with prayerful, thoughtful, and honest sessions in group and individual treatment) have since left their former way of life and in many cases gotten married. This constancy of being on the make is also seen in the existence of bathhouses, gay bars, etc.Are gay men still going to bathhouses? I don't think so since they don't need to hide like they used to.
Then there's this comment:
And just because someone is gay, does not mean they are attracted to every member of the same sex they are around. People seem to think that... So not true.Then we have this enlightened comment:
yes homosexual have no place in are military or society it is a sin and morally wrong.I didn't read all the responses but of the ones I did, the original poster didn't once respond to anyone. It makes me wonder if he even really wanted people's opinions or if he just wanted to stir up controversy.
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Date: 2012-02-08 08:12 am (UTC)almost as much aseven more than a conversation I was part of today at work. One of the guys was talking about Taylor Lautner or however you spell his name coming out of the closet, and I was like "Good for him." But the guy was like, "No, he can't be gay! He could get so much pussy!" I was like, "Well, if the pussy doesn't do anything for him then what's the point of him playing straight?" "It's the principle! He could get a lot of pussy." Obviously my logic was not the same as that of his planet, so instead I asked, "So my close gay friend should stay straight if he could get a lot of pussy?" "Is he rich or famous or hot?" "Assuming for the purposes of this discussion that that has anything to do with his sexuality, then hot, yes, but disowned and homeless." "Then he can be as gay as he wants. But if he can get lots of pussy then he shouldn't be turning it down."I had no coherent response to that.
EDIT: Upon further reflection... yeah, yours wins.